Buy Invicta Men's 4572 Subaqua Collection Chronograph WatchInvicta Men's 4572 Subaqua Collection Chronograph Watch Product Description:
- Precise and high-quality Swiss-quartz movement
- Durable flame-fusion crystal
- Case diameter: 51 mm
- Stainless-steel case; black dial; day-and-date functions; chronograph functions
- Water-resistant to 1,640 feet (500 M)
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15 of 17 people found the following review helpful.
Very Imposing Watch, with Possible Customer Service Issues
By Barry Van Gerbig
I've been waiting a long time to buy this Subaqua Noma III watch, and am very happy with it so far. It is one of the higher-rated watches, among the Invicta line. I think the size & design elements are what first sold me on this watch, as I am a "larger framed" guy. I joke with people that I think the watch is slimming, and has to make me look at least 10 pounds lighter.It has rugged, well-thought out details. Some of the stainless is "unpolished" & flat, especially in the cross-hatch section of the band. You could either say it makes it cheaper looking, or less reflective, for contrast. It might just be too difficult to polish down into those little grooves. You make the choice. The watch is larger than you might think, and very, very heavy, but the proportions are correct for it's size. The average men's divers watch is going to be about 40-45mm wide. The classic Casio G-Shocks are about 48mm & tall/thick. The Subaqua Noma is a whole 'nother world. If you don't count the "screw down" crown & the protector it is a true 50mm wide, but adding those 2 items bring it to 58mm wide. That is nearly 15mm, or 1.5cm wider than the average divers watch. It is also a very thick/tall watch, but it is appropriate for the size. Very similar to the big Citizen's divers watches, but they are very rounded, so there's less of a chance of peices interfering with diving equipment. Don't know that it would actually go down to 1500+ feet in depth, but I'm never going to be found down that far. Maybe 20ft, so it should be fine. I like my bands loose & there is plenty of band to work with, unlike some of the comments on the Quinotaur Russian Diver Invicta's with the rubber bands. You would have to get it to fit pretty snuggly to keep the screw down crown "protector" from scratching you, if you plan on being more "active" with the watch. Honestly, in warmer climates like Florida, many real divers won't wear shiny, or stainless divers watches, because they are said to attract barracuda. There is a "Blacked Out" version of this, but it normally runs a few hundred more. It is still pretty good looking. But I would stay away from "coated" watches, at these prices, though, as you can guarantee that the quality of the coating will probably disappoint you when it starts to come off.The Amazon price was about $425, which is pretty good value, if it lasts . . . but I have read of fairly constant problems with some new Invictas, especially with Warranty Repair & Customer Service. The chronograph doesn't work, a cheap piece of the band broke off, the clasp is too cheap, etc. All probably valid complaints. There are deeply filled discussion groups that talk about the quality of the movement, which Invicta says is & heavily "markets" as "allegedly" Swiss. What the experts & watch geeks are saying is that the Invicta "Swiss movement" is NOT completely SWISS. That means they have essentially abused, or taken advantage of some "loophole" in the law. Essentially, some parts can be made & assembled in China, or who knows where ... then combined with just enough Swiss parts to legally make it a "Swiss Movement." An American car has to have a sticker that says at least where foreign parts are supplied from, or where parts of the vehicle were assembled, like Mexico, or Canada. That does not seem to apply here. I think that is at least unethical, because it might give the consumer a false sense of quality & value. If the Invictas that are selling for $70-100, all day long, have the same "movements" as this model, I'm not expecting it to become an heirloom. Stick with a higher end Seiko, or Citizen watch if you really want it to go the distance. I especially like the science behind the Citizen "Eco Drive" line of watches. The larger dive watches with this technology, will run you from about $300 to over $1000, but they are the real deal. Just depends on whether you want stainless, or titanium & how deep you want it to go. The top model has a helium escape valve to deal with the crushing pressures of deep sea diving ... not just diving into the limo, or backyard pool.The one thing I would add, as a general warning ... is to be very wary of some foreign online stores, and possibly US stores on EBAY. There are so many Chinese fakes in just about every category of popular watch, you're bound to find a deal that seems to good to be true & it probably will be. If a watch that is supposed to be $1000, is at $785, when everyone else is at $1000 ... STAY AWAY.I honestly think that someone buying an Invicta is more into the "art & architecture" of the designs, but I would certainly not buy one of the higher priced models ($1,000-2000+). And the "Retail Values" that are crossed out have no real world bearing on actually being able to sell a watch at that "full" price. Even though ShopNBC & Amazon.com bought Invictas qualify for a warranty that is extended out to 5 years, for free (if you sign up w/in the 30 day window)... I've read of horrible customer service issues when someone does run into a defective watch, saying that it has taken, in some cases, months to get the watch back. That is a big concern of mine, but I still bought the watch & will see what happens. I imagine that 5 year warranty was a deal worked out with those sellers because of their own fears of the durability & quality of the Invictas. The real expensive Invicta (without diamonds) have what's called a Swiss Valjoux movement & real sapphire crystals. I'm sure it's a more accurate movement, but you're now paying nearly $2,000, or more. Now you're in Breitling, Tag & Omega territory, so your dealing with different apples to choose from. The less expensive ones like this model have only a Sapphire "coating," whatever that means. Just means it might tend to scratch more easily if you are planning to wear it while hiking or finally making that rock garden you've wanted for so long. Amazon.com & ShopNBC seem to be selling a great deal of them. And even Costco is carrying a few models. In the end people will vote with their $$$. I would say I took a calculated gamble, no matter how highly this particular watch is "rated." At some point you just have to decide if all the pluses & minuses are worth it. So far I say, "Yes," but we'll see.UPDATE>>>>>>Had this model since late May, 2009. Last year the DAY mechanism stopped being adjustable, or working at all. Had been renovating the house, so was not a top priority to deal with. Sent it off late September. Supposed to now be getting it "sometime" in February. So OVER 4 months to send, repair & receive a watch back. VERY DISAPPOINTING, and exactly the issues buyers were complaining about back then. Took the risk ... paid the price. It's supposed to be a 5 year "INVICTA RESERVE" warranty, but if it breaks a few times you won't see it for a total of one year. They allege they have to send them back to Switzerland. I guess collectors who have amassed 10, 20, 30+ Invictas in their barn can deal with having a few out for service at a time & not skip a beat. Plus, with this amazing warranty ... they make you pay for shipping & insurance to Invicta in Boca Raton, FL ... and they want you to include a Cashier's Check/Bank Check/Money Order for $20 for the return shipping & "handling," that you have to take time out of your day to go to the bank to get. What's an hour lost to you worth? You trust them to put in a decent movement that will not break down after a few years, but they don't trust you to send them a Personal Check for $20. Now this model seems to be in the Low $300s, to $250s if you want the Silicone & Stainless band (Model 5511) A much better deal, and if you like the contrast of the Rubber with the Stainless, you'll have a lighter watch, but still imposing. Still hoping to enjoy it when it gets back to me, but much less sure I'll ever buy another one, unless I have a lot more $$$, and don't have to give a crap if/when it breaks down. To end it on a lighter note, I'm just going to say that the "INVICTA RESERVE" warranty might mean ... you might want to reserve another watch waiting for your Invicta to get fixed.PS: I also have a Subaqua Noma Venom, that's holding out ... as I bought it in 2010 ... but it's uncomfortable for my wide wrist, as the fixed "Fangs" on each side force the rubber to have less outward give. It always gets comments, as does the SAN III, but my trust in the brand is pretty tarnished at this point.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful.
Absolutely amazing quality of construction
By E. J. Matthews
I just received my Subaqua Noma III 4572 on yesterday, and it is everything I expected it to be and more!I have wanted a SAN III for quite a while, and at the price offered by Amazon, I just couldn't pass it up any longer! The quality of the build of this watch is absolutely incredible - you really do have to handle one of these to understand. The case design is a real work of art - there are so many pieces that come together to make up this watch, and the way the design is implemented is better than I could have imagined. Everything from the bracelet, to the little details like the screw down pushers and the crown guard are flawlessly executed. I'm thrilled, and see an automatic Subaqua in the not so distant future.This watch easily competes with watches that cost thousands of dollars more.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful.
Superb watch!
By Ryker94
My wife got this watch for me as a Christmas gift. I absolutely love the watch. Yes...it is quite big and thick but it looks great on your wrist. I have medium sized wrists and it doesn't look too gaudy or too big. The construction is very high quality. I love the textured cross hatched design on the band. The only downside in my opinion is it is very heavy and does feel a bit heavy on your wrist. Other than that the watch is awesome!UPDATE as of Feb 2010Two of the pins/screws fell out and I couldn't find them. Seems to be a common problem with this model. I sent the watch back to Invicta and they fixed the pins/screws. My only complaint is that it cost me [...] bucks to ship it out and then another 25 to have Invicta send it back to me.I continue to wear it everyday and continue to get comments (all positive). I will note that the watch is very heavy. This may annoy you but you get used to it very quickly. Even thought I had problems with the pins/screws falling out, I WOULD recommend this watch. I have 8 other Invicta watches and enjoy each and every one of them.I did however knock it down from 5 stars to 4 stars due to the screw problem.***UPDATE as of Jan 2011The watch is still going strong after a year of wear. I am very pleased that all components have held up very well. The watch still looks like new.
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